TOWN OF SARATOGA
September 24, 2008 - 7:30 PM
Chairman Ian Murray called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m.
Planning Clerk Linda McCabe called the roll. Chairman Ian Murray – present, Robert Park – present, Paul Griffen – absent, Laurie Griffen – absent, Patrick Hanehan – present, Robert McConnell – present, Jennifer Koval – absent, and Alternate Joseph Lewandowski – present.
Lot-Line Adjustment Conference
David & Rebecca Howard #08-14
121 Co. Rt. 338
Schuylerville, NY 12871
S/B/L 157-1-25.21 Rural Residential
Applicants wish to convey 0.34+/- acre from their 12.38+/- acre parcel, to their neighbors, Michael & Barbara Tierney, 117 Co. Rd. 338, who will roll the conveyed land into their existing deed.
Jim Vianna appeared before the Board on behalf of the Applicants. He explained to the Board that the Howard’s would like to convey 0.34+/- acres to their neighbors, the Tierney’s, prior to selling their property to give them a bit more land. He also explained that he received a letter from Town Engineer Ken Martin concerning the barn foundation and he doesn’t think there’s much there. Town Engineer Ken Martin agreed with him; he had already gone out there for a look at it. Mr. Vianna explained that the reason the barn foundation is on the map is that, in years past, that was how the old deeds were written; lines and measurements were taken off of the barns. He then stated he thinks this is a pretty simple lot-line adjustment.
Chairman Ian Murray stated this is a straight lot-line adjustment. No structural changes, no wells or septics. No Board action is required. All the Board needs is for the Applicant to bring in the
updated deed and maps so we can get them stamped and signed. Mr. Vianna presented a deed description for the Howard’s to convey the 0.34+/- acre to Tierney’s. He did not do a deed
description for Tierney to Tierney because he did not do their survey, but it is understood that this needs to be rolled into their deed, it is not to be a separate lot. Mr. Vianna also added he has a revised deed description of the Howard house parcel after the conveyance of this parcel to the Tierney’s and handed it in for the file. Chairman Ian Murray stated it is the responsibility of the Howard’s to file the revised map with the county since they are Mr. Vianna’s clients; Mr. Vianna agreed. Chairman Ian Murray said you’re all set.
Dorothy S. Robinson #08-15
161 Haas Rd.
Schuylerville, NY 12871
Applicant wishes to convey 2+/- acres from her 12.99+/- acre parcel, to her neighbors, Michael & Kathy Fields, 186 Haas Rd., for pastureland.
Mrs. Robinson appeared before the Board and presented the original map. She showed where the Fields’ house is located and explained the “building” on the map is actually a run-in shed. Town Engineer Ken Martin stated he had gone out to check what the building was in the photo and agreed it is a run-in shed. Chairman Ian Murray stated this is a straightforward lot-line adjustment. No formal action is required of the Board. He told Mrs. Robinson she needs to provide a revised survey map and needs her attorney to draft up a new deed combining that and then we can stamp the maps, you can send them to the county and it’ll be done. Mrs. Robinson thanked the Board.
Sketch Plan Conference
John D. Hall, Jr. & Louise A. Winney #08-16
295 Fitch Rd.
Saratoga Springs, NY 12866
S/B/L 194-1-32.2 Rural
Applicant proposes to subdivide 3.2+/- acres, with 180’ of road frontage and an existing trailer, from a 5.2+/- acre parcel, in order for Amy Hall to build a house. This is located on the north side of Nielson Rd.
Jim Vianna appeared before the Board on behalf of the Applicants. Mr. Vianna told the Board that John Hall would like to subdivide so his daughter Amy can build a house there. He stated he has not yet surveyed the property, but he has verified the frontage. The lot is short about 20’ for meeting zoning regulations for the rural district and he knows they will have to go to the Zoning Board of Appeals for a variance. It has two existing homes on the property; John Hall’s home and the trailer. There are existing wells and septics, though if the proposed house on lot 1 (the trailer lot) goes forward, they will have to abandon at least the septic on that lot. Chairman Ian Murray stated the trailer would have to be removed from the property also and Mr. Vianna agreed. Mr. Vianna said he put the frontage on that lot because it has the most acreage. There should be enough area. Before we get into the survey, we wanted to see what issues the Board may have with this proposal. Chairman Ian Murray stated there’s a minor concern with the frontage. You have sandy soil there so we can have Building Inspector Gil Albert do a perc test since there is an existing well and septic on it. Mr. Vianna added there is one well serving both places there now and John Hall is going to have a new well drilled by the new house. Patrick
Hanehan questioned which lot the existing well will be on and Mr. Vianna responded he can’t give a definitive answer until he completes the survey. Chairman Ian Murray stated he hopes it goes that way then they’d only have to put one new well on there; though he imagines they have to do this so the daughter can get a mortgage without subdivision, with the multiple use law of 1981 they could still build another residence on there. Mr. Vianna agreed. Chairman Ian Murray stated he feels comfortable with this proposal and suggests they elevate this to full application tonight, deny it and send it to the Zoning Board of Appeals with a positive recommendation.
Denied 5-0; with a positive recommendation to the Zoning Board of Appeals.
Order of Business:
Old Business: Robert Park would like Zoning Officer Gil Albert to check a sign off premise of Mr. Giovanone’s Boat Storage, at or near the "old blue store" property, on Rt. 9P, south of Lee’s Trailer Park. Due to its size he is wondering if a permit is needed and if it is within our regulations.
Chairman Ian Murray noted that nothing has been done concerning the top paving of Neilson Landing and believes we still have a letter of credit; Town Engineer Ken Martin said he believes that we do and we can still call it in. We need to look into this.
New Business: Chairman Ian Murray noted to the Board that the MKN PUD is coming back to the Town Board. He also stated that he received a call from Jim Jennings saying that at the advice of the Fish Creek Rod & Gun club’s attorney and their bank, they will not be combining the landlocked parcels as requested by the Board. Chairman Ian Murray also stated the next meeting of the Planning Board will take place at the new Town Hall at 12 Spring St., Schuylerville, NY.
A motion to adjourn was made at 7: 57 p.m. by Patrick Hanehan, and seconded by Robert McConnell. Chairman Ian Murray – aye, Robert Park – aye, Laurie Griffin – absent, Paul Griffen – absent, Jennifer Koval – absent, Patrick Hanehan – aye, Robert McConnell – aye,
Alt. Joseph Lewandoski – aye.
Carried 5 – 0
The next meeting will be held October 22, 2008 at 12 Spring St., Schuylerville, NY.